i don't know if he was specifically referring to CCM or hillsong, but i can see why he's frustrated with worship in the church as a time where people are more concerned with how they feel and what they get out of it, rather than a time where they give worship to God as a whole community (i.e., corporate body).
but as far as worship through music goes, i'm still all for it. i see in the old testament some of the levites were musicians and were directed to play different kinds of instruments in the temple when the people assembled. of course, music shouldn't be the only way to do corporate worship, but it is a vital way in which people can come together and worship the Lord.
i think perhaps what's most important in worship in the church is being spirit-led. allowing the spirit to lead, whether it is to celebrate and be joyous, or whether it is to be contemplative and sorrowful. we can have all kinds of expressions and "moods" when we allow the spirit of God to lead the congregation.
and is it just me, or does brian mclaren look like he's wearing a prison jumpsuit?
That's a nice commentary, and it reminds me of the phrase, "I know enough to get myself in trouble."
As people grow through their relationship with Christ, they experience many emotions, actions, and reactions. New Christians typically relate to worship in a very basic way: as music they enjoy. However, somewhere on their journey, they will probably have an experience that touches them emotionally and spiritually.
Once they have this positive experience, they want to replicate it, but they don't know how. At first glance, the cause of this emotion might be related to the obvious: the worship leader, the musical selection, maybe the instrumentation, or even the venue. In reality, these holy moments are created by God, but it takes a while for maturing Christians to realize this.
And, like most things relating to the Holy Spirit, it is difficult to explain in tangible ways. Through experience and knowledge and guidance, a growing Christian will make the connection between their "extreme" worship experience and their relationship with God.
Also, not everybody with a shaved head is a criminal.
that's a good point. so, i to reiterate 'abigail_854', it's important to help people through the 'maturing process.' i remember when i associated worship and experiencing God with the worship leader and the pastor's message. not that there's anything wrong with that (especially for a new believer), but it's important to continue to mature and grow in one's relationship with God.
haha, i like how the video is very well produced and he talking about us making things overly pretty... just a thought. i agree with what everyone says... that's a copout huh?
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i don't know if he was specifically referring to CCM or hillsong, but i can see why he's frustrated with worship in the church as a time where people are more concerned with how they feel and what they get out of it, rather than a time where they give worship to God as a whole community (i.e., corporate body).
but as far as worship through music goes, i'm still all for it. i see in the old testament some of the levites were musicians and were directed to play different kinds of instruments in the temple when the people assembled. of course, music shouldn't be the only way to do corporate worship, but it is a vital way in which people can come together and worship the Lord.
i think perhaps what's most important in worship in the church is being spirit-led. allowing the spirit to lead, whether it is to celebrate and be joyous, or whether it is to be contemplative and sorrowful. we can have all kinds of expressions and "moods" when we allow the spirit of God to lead the congregation.
and is it just me, or does brian mclaren look like he's wearing a prison jumpsuit?
That's a nice commentary, and it reminds me of the phrase, "I know enough to get myself in trouble."
As people grow through their relationship with Christ, they experience many emotions, actions, and reactions. New Christians typically relate to worship in a very basic way: as music they enjoy. However, somewhere on their journey, they will probably have an experience that touches them emotionally and spiritually.
Once they have this positive experience, they want to replicate it, but they don't know how. At first glance, the cause of this emotion might be related to the obvious: the worship leader, the musical selection, maybe the instrumentation, or even the venue. In reality, these holy moments are created by God, but it takes a while for maturing Christians to realize this.
And, like most things relating to the Holy Spirit, it is difficult to explain in tangible ways. Through experience and knowledge and guidance, a growing Christian will make the connection between their "extreme" worship experience and their relationship with God.
Also, not everybody with a shaved head is a criminal.
that's a good point. so, i to reiterate 'abigail_854', it's important to help people through the 'maturing process.' i remember when i associated worship and experiencing God with the worship leader and the pastor's message. not that there's anything wrong with that (especially for a new believer), but it's important to continue to mature and grow in one's relationship with God.
haha, i like how the video is very well produced and he talking about us making things overly pretty... just a thought. i agree with what everyone says... that's a copout huh?
thanks warren for posting...
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